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	<title>Comments on: Peer to Peer Backup solutions appearing</title>
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	<description>Philip Sellers&#039; random thoughts on technology</description>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk -  Good point, but you&#039;re talking about the business version which does look like a typical client server application.  The personal version (which I use) is a true peer to peer application but it also offers other options.  You can backup to an external drive, to a friend (peer), or to a cloud service (pay-for) through Crashplan.  It seems to have the best of all worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk &#8211;  Good point, but you&#8217;re talking about the business version which does look like a typical client server application.  The personal version (which I use) is a true peer to peer application but it also offers other options.  You can backup to an external drive, to a friend (peer), or to a cloud service (pay-for) through Crashplan.  It seems to have the best of all worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk M. Schafer</title>
		<link>http://tech.philipsellers.com/2009/01/03/peer-to-peer-backup-solutions-appearing/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk M. Schafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this is an old post, but it comes up high in a search for &quot;p2p backup&quot;. Unfortunately, after spending about 15 minutes on the CrashPlan site, I&#039;m just having trouble seeing this as anything other than a glossy version of BackupExec, and I&#039;ve been in this industry long enough (over two decades) that I was using BE when it was owned by Seagate, before Veritas or Symantec. CrashPlan--according to their own description--uses one &quot;server&quot; repository for multiple &quot;client&quot; sources; I would expect peer to peer to be headless, i.e., if there is a server, it&#039;s a tracker only, and the peers are all (in the client/server interpretation of p2p) clients AND servers. In fact, the diagram at the top of this page: http://b3.crashplan.com/business/how.html shows a typical client-server architecture (p2p would have lines between every device, not everyone to a server). In any case, perhaps they&#039;ve simply shifted software models.

Cucku appears to be closer to the model (multiple partners, and it&#039;s doubly implied in being able to set up one-way partnerships), but unfortunately, multiple partners are serialized...so it&#039;s close, but not quite there yet. In any case, you still gave me a place to start--as well as highlighting standard options I can still consider--so thank you for the writeup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is an old post, but it comes up high in a search for &#8220;p2p backup&#8221;. Unfortunately, after spending about 15 minutes on the CrashPlan site, I&#8217;m just having trouble seeing this as anything other than a glossy version of BackupExec, and I&#8217;ve been in this industry long enough (over two decades) that I was using BE when it was owned by Seagate, before Veritas or Symantec. CrashPlan&#8211;according to their own description&#8211;uses one &#8220;server&#8221; repository for multiple &#8220;client&#8221; sources; I would expect peer to peer to be headless, i.e., if there is a server, it&#8217;s a tracker only, and the peers are all (in the client/server interpretation of p2p) clients AND servers. In fact, the diagram at the top of this page: <a href="http://b3.crashplan.com/business/how.html" rel="nofollow">http://b3.crashplan.com/business/how.html</a> shows a typical client-server architecture (p2p would have lines between every device, not everyone to a server). In any case, perhaps they&#8217;ve simply shifted software models.</p>
<p>Cucku appears to be closer to the model (multiple partners, and it&#8217;s doubly implied in being able to set up one-way partnerships), but unfortunately, multiple partners are serialized&#8230;so it&#8217;s close, but not quite there yet. In any case, you still gave me a place to start&#8211;as well as highlighting standard options I can still consider&#8211;so thank you for the writeup.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim @ Disaster Recovery</title>
		<link>http://tech.philipsellers.com/2009/01/03/peer-to-peer-backup-solutions-appearing/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim @ Disaster Recovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Philip upstream bandwidth is a big issue for lots of people. In Europe some countries upstream is tiny so trying to upload 100GB would just take so long</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Philip upstream bandwidth is a big issue for lots of people. In Europe some countries upstream is tiny so trying to upload 100GB would just take so long</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://tech.philipsellers.com/2009/01/03/peer-to-peer-backup-solutions-appearing/comment-page-1/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same experience with Mozy. I ended up using TrueSafe, I can back up offsite to my friend&#039;s pc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same experience with Mozy. I ended up using TrueSafe, I can back up offsite to my friend&#8217;s pc.</p>
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